Thin Ice Blu-ray Review
The Convincer
Score: 54
from 3 reviewers
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Thin Ice features solid Blu-ray presentation and engaging performances, but ultimately falls short due to structural issues and tonal inconsistencies.
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DTS-HD MA
Video: 64
Presented in 1080p with a mellow palette of blues and grays, 'Thin Ice' offers a clean, natural viewing experience that captures fine details and deep black levels, despite some noise in darker scenes. While not the sharpest, the Blu-ray transfer successfully conveys the film's chilly aesthetic and indie charm.
Audio: 54
The Blu-ray of 'Thin Ice' delivers a competent audio experience with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 tracks for both cuts, ensuring clear dialogue and suitable background ambiance, though lacking in immersive depth. The real distinction lies in the scores: Alex Wurman’s original is noir-appropriate, while Jeff Danna’s is more conventional.
Extra: 40
The Blu-ray extras for 'Thin Ice' offer a comprehensive behind-the-scenes look featuring interviews with the cast and crew, a Sundance premiere featurette, and a collection of deleted scenes found in various cuts; however, crucial omissions regarding the studio re-cut and director's vision are notably absent.
Movie: 50
Thin Ice, despite some strong performances from Greg Kinnear and Billy Crudup, suffers from uneven tone and an over-explained twist ending. The Blu-ray release offers both the theatrical and director's cuts, but neither version fully redeems the film's lack of engaging storytelling and predictable execution.
Video: 64
"Thin Ice" offers an impressive 1080p/AVC-encoded Blu-ray transfer that captures the film's cold, wintry environment with precision. Filmed in 2.35:1 aspect ratio on 35mm, the presentation upholds the integrity of the original material, displaying a sufficiently clean and compression-free image. The natural grain structure persists unobtrusively throughout, avoiding heavy-handed digital noise reduction (DNR) or edge enhancement, although some analog noise is noticeable in darker scenes. The accuracy of the color palette is commendable, featuring a spectrum dominated by blues and grays that evoke a chilling atmosphere, contrasted by deep blacks and well-managed white levels. Shadows are delineated with clarity, further enhancing the visual depth.
Facial and texture details are particularly noteworthy—the pores on actors' faces and the worn textures of props such as violins are sharply rendered. This Blu-ray release may not be the sharpest or most eye-catching in today's market, but it delivers high-definition detail where it counts, particularly in facial features, clothing textures, and production design elements. Despite its low-budget indie roots, the film's video quality sustains an engaging visual narrative without succumbing to typical digital artifacts that often mar such releases.
While "Thin Ice" doesn't achieve the sharpness or glossiness of high-budget Hollywood productions, it stands as a testament to effective Blu-ray transfers for smaller-scale films. The icy cinematography brings out an atmospheric chill inherent to the film's narrative, encapsulating viewers in its frosty visual embrace. The Blu-ray presentation serves the film well, balancing technical acuity with faithful representation of the filmmaker's intent.
Audio: 54
The Blu-ray of "Thin Ice" features a commendable DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround track for both versions of the film. The audio mix excels in presenting dialogue with remarkable clarity and accuracy, ensuring conversations remain cleanly recorded and easily understandable at the top of the mix. Though the rear speakers aren’t heavily utilized, they effectively convey the subtle wintry ambience, casino noises, and the acoustics of the Chicago train station, enriching the overall listening experience.
Regarding the film’s scores, there is a notable distinction between the two versions. Jeff Danna's score, accompanying the theatrical cut, delivers a standard comic hijinks fare that feels somewhat clichéd. In contrast, Alex Wurman’s original score for the alternate cut offers a more nuanced blend of banjo, piano, drums, and upright bass, which aligns well with the film’s noir elements. Both scores are well-mixed and bleed through the sound field to provide a moderately immersive auditory experience, though neither track astounds with complexity.
In sum, while the audio presentation isn't packed with dramatic effects or particularly immersive moments, it effectively supports the film’s atmosphere and narrative. Dialogue remains consistently clear and well-balanced against the subtly engaging background sounds. Optional English SDH and Spanish subtitles in easy-to-read white lettering are also available for those who may need or prefer them.
Extras: 40
The Blu-ray edition of "Thin Ice" includes a commendable array of bonus content, enhancing the viewer’s understanding and appreciation of the film. The highlight is the in-depth "Behind the Scenes of Thin Ice," offering valuable insights through on-set footage and interviews with key cast members and filmmakers, although it notably omits discussions on the studio re-cut. The "Sundance Premiere Featurette" provides a brief yet engaging look at the film's debut at The Egyptian Theater, featuring appearances from the director and cast. Additionally, the disc includes "Deleted Scenes," which provide alternative glimpses into the narrative, though their relevance varies depending on the film cut viewed.
Extras included in this disc:
- Behind the Scenes of Thin Ice: Features interviews and on-set footage with cast and filmmakers.
- Sundance Premiere Featurette: Director and cast present at the film's Sundance premiere.
- Deleted Scenes: Various scenes not in the final cut, some appearing in different forms.
Movie: 50
"Thin Ice," directed by Jill Sprecher and written with her sister Karen, attempts a dark comedy reminiscent of the Coen brothers, focusing on Mickey Prohaska (Greg Kinnear), a Wisconsin insurance salesman embroiled in a convoluted heist. Set against a snowy Midwestern backdrop, Mickey’s life spirals out of control when he seeks to pilfer a $25,000 violin from an elderly client, Gorvy Hauer (Alan Arkin). The introduction of Randy Kinny (Billy Crudup), a mustachioed, unhinged ex-con complicates matters further, pulling Mickey into a slippery slope of crime and murder.
The Blu-ray provides both the theatrical and the original Sundance-premiered cut, the latter titled "The Convincer." The theatrical version, re-scored with Jeff Dana's forgettable music and choppily edited to 93 minutes, contrasts sharply with the director’s 114-minute cut, which features more character depth and a score by Alex Wurman. Despite these differences, both versions share a significant flaw: an over-reliance on convoluted plot twists and heavy-handed exposition. Though Kinnear’s portrayal adeptly balances between despicable and pitiable, the story ultimately fractures under its own weight. Billy Crudup shines as the comedic highlight with his unpredictable antics, but Alan Arkin's character feels slightly miscast with his out-of-place New York accent.
Despite strong performances from the cast, including Kinnear's nuanced balance of smarm and vulnerability, and Crudup's scene-stealing energy, "Thin Ice" struggles with tonal coherence. The film’s venture from quirky humor into darker shades falters due to the uneven pacing and an unsatisfactory twist ending. Elements that evoke "Fargo" are present but fail to coalesce into a compelling narrative. This neo-noir comedy starts intriguing but dissolves into a formulaic denouement, leaving viewers craving a more robust and original execution.
Total: 54
"Thin Ice" makes for an intriguing watch with a generally solid Blu-Ray presentation, but falls short in several critical areas. The film's distribution history is tumultuous, with director Jill Sprecher's original cut being significantly altered by the distributor, resulting in a final product that lacks coherence. The performances of Greg Kinnear, Alan Arkin, and Billy Crudup do stand out—Kinnear’s portrayal of a morally dubious character and Crudup’s memorable intensity bring life to the film. However, even their commendable chemistry cannot fully compensate for the film's structural and tonal weaknesses. Both the original and theatrical versions share issues like underwhelming dark humor and an improbable ending that detract from the overall experience.
The Blu-Ray release maintains a high standard of video and audio quality, ensuring that viewers can appreciate the film's visual and auditory aspects without distraction. Despite 20th Century Fox’s effort to include both cuts of the film, "Thin Ice" remains plagued by the same foundational flaws. The supplementary features, while limited, do provide some additional context but fall short of delivering comprehensive insights that could enhance one's viewing experience. A commentary track could have been particularly enlightening, especially considering the behind-the-scenes changes made to the film.
In conclusion, "Thin Ice" (originally titled "The Convincer") is a mixed bag. Despite solid performances and technical presentation on Blu-Ray, the film’s significant changes and fundamental storytelling issues render it a lukewarm thriller. For heist/comedy fans craving a new experience, it may offer some low-key amusement, but these fleeting moments are not enough to make it memorable. Ultimately, this makes "Thin Ice" more suited to a rental than a purchase.
Blu-ray.com review by Casey BroadwaterRead review here
Video: 80
While this isn't the sharpest-looking picture I've seen this year, or even this week, the image displays plenty of high definition detail in the areas where you normally look for it�facial features, clothing...
Audio: 70
Conversations are always cleanly recorded and easily understandable, balanced at the top of the mix, and while the rear speakers don't get a tremendous amount of play, you will hear some quiet wintry ambience...
Extras: 40
Behind the Scenes of Thin Ice (1080p, 24:58): A lengthy making-of special, featuring on-set footage and interviews with all the stars, the Sprecher sisters, and various producers....
Movie: 50
The old man's semi-dementia makes him a slippery character�we have trouble pinning him down, motivation-wise, until the final twist of the plot�and his high-priced violin essentially becomes the film's...
Total: 50
Knowing that Thin Ice�sorry, The Convincer�got so drastically worked over by its distributor without director Jill Sprecher's involvement or consent, I was curious to compare the two cuts and see if Sprecher's...
High-Def DigestRead review here
Video: 80
Contrast is nicely done, even though much of the movie features bright white snow that could've easily come across as too bright....
Audio: 60
The score, on both versions of the movie, bleeds through the sound field offering a somewhat immersive feel....
Extras: 40
A promo-esque behind-the-scenes making-of featurette that has interviews from cast and crew talking about the film, working together, and shooting in the cold....
Movie: 60
The way Mickey's life spirals out of control is fun to watch seeing that he's such a deplorable man to begin with....
Total: 60
The audio and video are done well though, so if you're interested in the movie you should give it a look before writing it off....
Why So Blu?Read review here
Video: 80
The color palette is pretty mellow, with lots of blues and grays making up the visual aesthetic of the film, while various textures and some environments register well enough, but are never as seemingly...
Audio: 80
Nothing ever feels overwhelming and the various background noises associated with a film that has winter as its setting feels appropriate....
Extras: 50
The other features are somewhat expected, but at least provide a little more insight about the film and are presented in HD.Features Include:Theatrical Version and Director’s CutBehind the Scenes of Thin...
Movie: 50
The director’s cut is technically better, as it is not choppily edited and leaves in various character beats that help the film out overall, but the problem is that I was never able to really engage in...
Total: 60
The amount of special features is small, but somewhat effective in expanding on the film (though a commentary could have been great, given how the studio took away this film and cut it up)....
Director: Jill Sprecher
Actors: Greg Kinnear, Billy Crudup, Alan Arkin
PlotMickey Prohaska is a small-time insurance agent in Kenosha, Wisconsin, struggling both professionally and personally. His marriage is falling apart, and his business isn’t faring much better. Desperate for a big break, Mickey stumbles upon a potential windfall when he discovers that an elderly farmer named Gorvy Hauer possesses a rare and valuable violin. Seizing the opportunity, Mickey concocts a scheme to steal the instrument and sell it for a hefty profit, all while attempting to keep Gorvy in the dark about its true worth. But things take an unexpected turn when Mickey involves Randy Kinney, an unstable locksmith, to assist in the heist.
Randy’s volatile nature quickly complicates Mickey’s seemingly straightforward plan. As the situation spirals out of control, Mickey finds himself entangled in a dangerous web of deceit that extends far beyond his original intentions. Facing a mounting series of lies and mishaps, Mickey is pushed to his limits, forced to navigate both Randy’s unpredictability and the suspicions of those around him. In seeking easy money and redemption, Mickey's life becomes a tense and unpredictable whirlwind where the stakes only get higher. The twists and turns lead to a gripping conclusion as things unravel, and Mickey is left to confront the consequences of his actions amidst a growing sense of peril.
Writers: Jill Sprecher, Karen Sprecher
Release Date: 25 Jan 2011
Runtime: 93 min
Rating: R
Country: United States
Language: English